Observation from Book

Many out in cyberspace are aware of the book I’ve been doing: it traces the Vedic Aryans who, in terms of  yDNA, are Hg  R-M17.  The methodology can be applied to any DNA line; so is universal in application, but unique in outcome.

In the course of researching Chapter XIV, I discovered a correlation to something which will be widely discussed over the next two years … the MATAN CALENDAR due to end in December 2012 and thus end the world, or, at least, the current cycle.  Turns out that it is based on a well know period – 270 days, 270 degrees, or, in this case, 270 cycles.  The date to concern ourselves does NOT fall in 2012 – rather it falls in 2015. (most likely, 18 February 2015).

The Mayan calendar was roughly 34 cycles from the start of the Hebrew Calendar (there is a slush involved in the conversion between those two calendars and our calendar)

However, if we focus on the Hebrew Calendar in the same terms as the Mayan – 270 cycles in, (1939) Hitler began his extermination of the Hebrews.

If you are in to astrological mysticism, be forewarned, nothing will happen in 2012 (a Presidential Election Year) but, if we assume there is meaning in these cycles,  something of significance will happen in the year following the mid-term elections.

OK … done my post of record  … now to duplicate it on “OUT FROM UNDER”

Chenchu & Vikings - Connected by Hebrews

The Chenchu are an Indian Caste with special temple privileges -- they also claim to be descendant from an incarnation of SHIVA. In brief, they are an old people ... and they are a tribe that lives, and always has lived, in the woods. They are "untouched primatives" and "very ancient".

The Vikings entered history when they "plundering of the monastery on the English island of Lindisfarne on June 8th, 793". That fact only dates when Charlemagne's Empire got a bit of "payback" -- which I'll not explain here, at this time (still compiling the cause and effect dates & data for Chapter X of my book, "Grandpa Was A Deity").

And everyone knows the Hebrews -- but few know that Josephus claimed they had originated in India. The following image is from my Research Database -- the "PAPER>" notation refers to DNA research papers whose supporting data I've correlated, sorted, and subjected to basic analysis by DYS markers Haplotype & controlling Haplogroup. This is from the R1a1 (R-M17) (Hg-3) (Eu19) data contained in some of those papers.




NOTICE: Seeking Research Data.
1. I'm seeking individuals (male or female) who are related to the TRAUPSIEL family (Known in USA as Simon, and possibly by other surnames if they survived the Holocaust) I need some family history -- and ideally the six-twelve yDNA markers commonly used in peer-review research.
2. I'm also seeking the same for the Livshitz family of Slutz.
3. I would also be interested in communicating with anyone who could trace their line to WAHL "the elected" who was King of Poland for a day (or possibly a week) back in the 1500's.

DNA Montomery, King Tut, and ?Jesus?

Today, on The Hidden History Hour, we had an interesting examination of several current Historical issues which are related to new yDNA findings:
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/sofiatemplar/2010/03/02/dna-and-history

Included are topics and data related to Prof. Hugh Montgomery's recent book, "God-Kings of Outremer" (2009) and his related works: "God-Kings of Europe" (2006) and "God-Kings of England" (2007). Thinking in terms of the Da Vinchi Code -- which Hugh dismisses as "claptrap", what are the ramifications of a Jesus who had children? Could a human have survived the cross -- after having a spear thrust into his side?

Is there biblical precedent for for divine grand-children? Of course, my own "Grandpa was a Deity" is still in the editing phase -- but, still, we can touch on some of the ramifications.

As you will learn, Prof. Montgomery has had his DNA tested and he is a J2 -- with one mutation from the J2 related to the Jewish priestly class which links directly back to the biblical first priest, Aaron.

There are two Haplogroup J1 CMH lineages:
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and
12-23-14-10-13-17-11-16-11-13-11-31
These are TRUE Priestly Jewish lineages
In “Cohen Modal Haplotype” (CMH) haplogroup J2
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This is a Jewish lineage related to the CMH. There is no question J2 is Semitic and there is little question that it is Jewish -- though those who have it might not, today, be followers of the Jewish religion.

Calculations by Biochemist & Harvard faculty member, Anatole A. Klyosov, have established that the the “CMH” of "haplogroup J2 represents a rather compact group of haplotypes with a recent ancestor who lived 1,450 years bp". Thus the J2 can be dated to 550CE or concurrent with the period when Frank KING Clovis, converting to Christianity -- where it emerged is still to be determine.
Hugh Montgomery's CMH haplogroup J2
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is one mutation removed from this J2 and therefore his ancestor lived subsequent to that date -- possibly around time of the Islamic invasion of Iberia (711CE), possibly more recently.

Also discussed are Ergolding -- which is notable for the direct link it creates (through yDNA) to the Frankish Empire and many of Sinclair lineage. We also mentioned Anatole Klyosov's dating of the R1b1b2 Atlantic Modal Haplotype (AMH) to 4400 years ago -- which was the period of Stonehenge, the first pyramids (and their architech cum deity, Imhotep). The concurrence of the astrological stone constructions with the emergence of R1b1b2 yields the only possible historic period in which there was a pre-Armana association with the AMH.

This pre-Armana indication of sustained contact has significance in the context of some claims that the recent (February 27, Journal of the American Medical Association) publication of King Tut's DNA affirmed family tree. Various Internet sites and forums have had individuals posit the possibility that Tut -- and therefore his father (Aten, the Monotheist Pharaoh) and grandfather -- was an R1b1b2. This assertion is based upon the only two yDNA markers recovered from all the remains tested. Those two markers are DYS393=13 and y-gata-H4=11.
My research shows the only geographically possible Haplogroup having those values to be J2 ... the same group for Hugh Montgomery and the Semites who occupied the Nile Delta region.

One site, A Forum, in order to make the R1b1b2 assertion, altered the H4 to 10 -- effectively declaring the recent testing did not conform to standards which were modified well before the testing had begun. In effect, the author of that assertion declared the Egyptian data invalid due to ignorance, or incompetence, on the part of the labs used. However, were it to be established that Imhotep was an R1b1b2 -- it follows that, having been deified, the Pharaohic families would not have hesitated to marry into his lineage, thus the possibility of R1b1b2 based upon possible Egyptian contact with the Stonehenge, or European megalithic, construction. Such a genetic connection 4000 years ago could have made it's way into the royal chambers 3300 years ago -- especially since then crown of Egypt is known to have been matriarchal.

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OH for those who come across the claims, or worse swollow those claims, that R1b1b2 was the halpogroup for King Tut:

First check the Genographic Project at National Geographic -- the url is:
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/lan/en/atlas.html

The BLUE is the yDNA, the yellow-orange pathways are mtDNA

The sideboard text will show it's R1b ... the map will focus in a a trail that arches through Central Asia into Lithuania and down into Europe. In order to classifiy Tut as R1b, one need find a historic record that has Europeans as Egyptian Kings (Pharaohs). The only foreign Kings were the Shepard Kings -- the Hyksos -- who were asian Hebri (Hebrews when they became Israelites during the Armana period, per the Egyptian records of the period - known as the Armana Letters).
These Hebrews were, according to Flavus Josephus (first century Jewish Historian & General), from India. That would many the R1a. R1a because the Brahman and Ashkenazi Levites are R1a (plus other ancient records affirm those connections).

Basically, only an incompetent genealogist, geneticist, or historian, would assert that Tut could be R1b1b2 (Which is a Spanish Basque subclade which emerged about 4400 years ago -- clearly European. Hence the only possible connection is a link between the Spainish etc megaliths, the Pyramids, Stonehenge, and Imhopet - the architect of the first pyramid.)

Of course, the internet is also a playground for the mentally challenged conspiracy types -- they will assert any silliness that will get them attention ... and people of that type do make unfounded and unsupportable claims. They are most notable for their dismissal of science (ie, Creationists) and expert research published in peer review journals. The scientific method requires that one posit something which, if true, supports the theory -- ie, that the pyramids and stonehenge were based on a common megalithic skill and designed to provide a function (such as an astrological calendar or astrological alignment, or, as in the case of the Geat pyramid complex, an astrological representation of an important star cluster),
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Any way -- enjoy the show ... there will doubtless be more to follow
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One of the voices of whom I spoke sent this comment (4 March 2010):

"As for the Genographic website, it is wrong in so many ways its not funny. Not as wrong as those who believe in astrology, secret societies, and blood line of Jesus and so forth. But still wrong. And you don't have to take my word for it."

[No need wasting space on the rest of his drivel. Though he does support it with reference to a paper published by PLoS Biology: "A Predominantly Neolithic Origin for European Paternal Lineages" Patricia Balaresque et al
http://www.familytreedna.com/pdf/Balaresque2010.pdf
The paper makes no mention of Egypt, and states "Haplogroup R1b1b2 (R-M269) is the commonest European Y-chromosomal lineage, increasing in frequency from east to west." Which is exactly what the Genographic site states. So the evidence to support his assertion is that the Project is right and he is wrong. Ya gotta love this stuff.]

It appears this credentialed, unpublished, individual believes the National Geographic's five year Genographic Project is totally wrong and he is correct in asserting that the Monotheist Kings of the Armana Period, and their successor King Tut, were European. And gee, National Geographic is wrong on a level comparable -- but not quite as bad as -- "those who believe in astrology, secret societies, and blood line of Jesus and so forth." OK GUYS cancel your subscription membership to National Geographic Society and black list Dr Spencer Wells & company ... all because this (VV) guy says so.
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Obama Turning Republican

OK so now our prez is going off the wall and becoming a Republican – you know the type … war at any cost.

We are going t0 have a major troop build up in Afghanistan – why?

The Republicans have issued the call for a Victory  in Afghanistan pledge from all its members.  Of course, nobody has any idea how to define “VICTORY” – so how the hell would anyone know when it has been achieved?

Think about it.  How would YOU define victory?  Stop terrorists?  No feasible – they are everywhere but Afghanistan.  Where are the suicide bombers?  Where are they killing people?  Who are they killing?  Certainly they haven’t attacked us in recent years – but they have killed Muslims  in Islamic nations.  Yet where are the Islamic armies?  Has any Islamic nation come forward to stop terrorists?  Or are they funding them to kill their own people, and their fellow religionists in neighboring nations?

Yep … more troops into a nation run by the Taliban … so the Taliban can continue to oppress the people of that nation and the people can blame the USA for allowing it to happen.  OR … pull troops out and get blamed for the Taliban taking over the killing and returning tom power.  NO WIN for USA … hence NO VICTORY POSSIBLE.

 

On the other hand, it is a good jobs program – if handled correctly.  And the demographic reality is, and has been, that, as of this year and for the next five years, we will need all the job programs we can get.  Then we will still have another fifteen years before stability is reestablished.   It’s call the baby boom retirement years – after decades of low birthrates and skimping on education to enrich the Ponzi scam types who own the Republican Party.

OK, so there is a practical basis for a troop buildup … it will pump money into the support sectors of the economy without killing too many of our children and grandchildren.

Hey DNA SPREAD THEORY – keep enough troops in Afghanistan, for a long enough time, and we will introduce a lot of not Islamic DNA into their gene pool … we did it in Vietnam, Germany, and Japan …

 

Enjoy the war.

GOTH ?

Reading Jordans (551CE) yields this:
"There is a great island situated in the surge of the northern Ocean, Scandza by name, in the shape of a juniper leaf with bulging sides that taper down to a point at a long end."

"In the northern part of the island the race of the Adogit live, who are said to have continual light in midsummer for forty days and nights, and who likewise have no clear light in the winter season for the same number of days and nights."

"All these live like wild animals in rocks hewn out like castles. And there are beyond these the Ostrogoths, Raumarici, Aeragnaricii, and the most gentle Finns, milder than all the inhabitants of Scandza."

"Now from this island of Scandza, as from a hive of races or a womb of nations, the Goths are said to have come forth long ago under their king, Berig by name."

So we have it. The Goth, or Ostrogoth, originated in Scandinavia near modern Finland. We can omit the description of their trip to the Black Sea, creation of Visigoth, and the Visigoth migration to France & Spain -- where, in France, they are conquered by the Franks.

Our question is one of DNA. Were the Goth/Visigoth Hg-R1b? That would explain the Hg-R1b dominance in Spain. The question becomes: 'What Hg were the Franks who conquered them in France?'

The logic is interesting ... backtrack from Spain to Scandinavia via the Black Sea and Hg-R1b is Viking four hundred years before the Vikings emerged. Based upon their location and the land route to Belarus and Slavic territory, the Finns would probably have been Hg-R1a. Curiously, their description comports well with that of the Scythian approach to combat. There is also the possibility that the Goths came down as two tribes ... two family groups ... one R1a the other R1b and the R1b family headed west to become the Visigoth.

To apply DNA Spread Theory, we have need of grave DNA from 400CE ...

Thoughts on Hg-G

Hg-G was also found at Ergolding. It's origins and regional associations connect it with the Black Sea and Caucasus regions.

Hypothetical: What if, in that time period, the Bavarian nobility were Hg-G?

The real query goes to the Hg of Garibald I of Bavaria ... he ties back (over 100 years) to Duke THEODON I of Bavaria.

More on Ergolding

It appears (from Isotopic examination) that the three R1b individuals were raised in the region of Ravensburg. The probable origin point would have been Wolfegg Castle.

That said, The R1b belongs to the Frankish Kings -- France & Normandy -- and have no business being there. Again, that said, the Bavarian s were reinforced by Frankish soldiers during the reign of Duke Garibald I of Bavaria (540CE). He was the second husband of Waldrada -- the widow of the Frankish/Merovingian king Theudebald.

Did Waldrada & Theudebald have a son who traveled with her from the Merovigian Court to Bavaria? If so, that sons could have been ancestor to the three men found at Ergolding. This would explain both their apparent status and their Frankish R1b DNA.

Theudebald died in 555CE. The son would have been born after 531 and before 555CE -- allowing for failure to gain throne upon his father's death, he was probably born between 550 and 555 CE. His son would have been born c.580, his grandson 610CE and the great-grandsons found at Ergolding would have been born around 635/40 CE.

The alternative is that the Ergolding remains were Frankish Troops -- based on their armor and the fact their graves were not vandalized, they were important officers -- thus nobles.

At this point, the issue is one of paper trail ... whose children go from the region around Normandy to Bravaria?